Danny DeLoach - Experiences from 59 years of being a Farrier
John Dowdy:
Hello, and welcome to this week's Equinety podcast. We are staying right here in the sunshine state of Florida. And I've been looking forward to this podcast because we've gotten more and more farriers that are looking at our product, using our product, recommending our product. And so this one is a great one. 59 years experience in the world of being a farrier. So welcome to the Equinety podcast, Danny DeLoach.
Danny DeLoach:
Thank you, John. I appreciate the opportunity to share some of my experiences with you and hopefully it will help others.
John Dowdy:
Well, and I appreciate you taking the time to be on the call. I know you're a busy guy. And with 59 years of experience, I would have to assume that you've seen a lot.
Danny DeLoach:
I can't say I've seen it all, but I've seen a good bit, I think. Thank you. With that number of years. Thanks for asking.
John Dowdy:
Yeah. So 59 years experience that makes you about 62. So, you started at an early age.
Danny DeLoach:
If I'd just started at one I'd be in pretty good shape.
John Dowdy:
Yeah, that's right. That's right. Well, no, I really appreciate it. I'm excited about this one too. And I wanted to go a little bit of a different approach with this podcast because typically, if you've listened or anybody out there that's been listening to the podcast, we talk about the horse owners problems that they were having with the horse. How they came across our product, and then what the product has been doing for their horse since they've been using it. And that's kind of been the format.
John Dowdy:
We'll kind of keep that a little bit of the same in this way, but I think with your experience in the world of being a farrier there's, well, I would say probably some trade secrets out there. Or some little tricks that might be informative to people. And with our product, the Equinety Horse XL specifically, I tell people all the time it's not a miracle supplement, but it sure has done some miraculous things. It's not the end all be all. But on the other hand, if your horse has horrible hooves and there's not much to work with you could have the best farrier on the planet, but what's a farrier supposed to do at that point? I guess be really creative in the hopes that the hoof is going to grow out, I guess.
Danny DeLoach:
Yeah. I often times tell people that they say, "Yo, my horse has no heel." And I say, "Well, you know what? When I get through with him, he's not going to have a heel because God made him, I didn't. I can't make something that God did. But we can help it a little bit." So I have done that.
John Dowdy:
Yeah. And I think too, it's taking in people's expectations. We have to reel those in sometimes. Especially when they come across a product like ours, that's touting all of this stuff and all of these examples and testimonials. And sometimes things don't work really quickly. But one of the benefits of our product is helping to give the body what it needs to repair at a cellular level, whether that be the hooves, top line, joints and all these types of things.
John Dowdy:
Before we get into some of those examples, in your experience out there has there really... And I guess we won't get into mentioning other product names specifically, of what doesn't work or what you haven't seen really work that much. But is there anything through the years that has kind of been your go-to, prior to finding our product? I should say that you've only been using our product, or recommending our product, for about four months.
Danny DeLoach:
That's correct.
John Dowdy:
Yeah. So, that leaves a lot of years prior to our product. What was kind of, your go-to? Or what did you recommend to people to help with trying to grow a hoof or getting it healthy where you could have something to work with?
Danny DeLoach:
Well, the one product that I have used, that I think it worked well to improve a hoof and make a hoof wall so I can nail a shoe on, has been Kombat Boots spelled with a K. Used to work really well. The other thing is, I see some of my clients using products that they used to put oil on their horses feet and to lubricate them and keep moisture in them. And I tell them that when they get through with that container that they have, it has a really nice brush on it and all. I said when you get through with that, fill it with olive oil and paint your horses feet. It will be a lot cheaper and work better.
John Dowdy:
Oh. All right. Well, that's a pretty good little trade secret out there. Huh? So the olive oil is...
Danny DeLoach:
I can tell you this, just from my experience, what started me on the Equinety product is I have a mare who, my little granddaughter rides. It's a cutting horse and she rides this horse. This particular horse has always been nutsy when I would turn the other horses out of the stall and let them go. And she would be just making circles in the stall and having a fit.
Danny DeLoach:
Well, I happened to see on your podcast, or not podcast, but on your advertisement on Facebook, that it helps with anxiety. So I thought I would give it a try. I ordered some and gave to this mare some. In four days time, this mare, rather than making circles and going nuts in the stall, would stand at the gate and wait on her turn to get out.
Danny DeLoach:
Since that time I have been sold on this product. I've been using it for a short period of time and [gave 00:06:15] my granddaughter to cut this past weekend. And my wife has had a terrible time getting her just up to the round bend and as skittish as she can be, I put my granddaughter on her on the trailer and she rode her to the round bend. So, for performance and changing one's mind, I love this product and I intend to continue to use it.
John Dowdy:
Yeah, that's great. Now for those tuning in for the first time, maybe you've kind of heard about the Equinety Horse XL. You've seen the reviews, read through comments and things like that. What this actually is, it's 100% pure amino acids. There's no filler sugars or starches, and there's no loading dose.
John Dowdy:
What it's specifically designed to do is give the body what it needs to release its own hormones. And then the body is able to use its own hormones to put whatever it needs in its own body for the repair. In this example that you were just talking about, being able to help with anxiety and stress and the whole demeanor is a very common thing. We've seen this happen in as little as three days. Now with this particular horse, did you also find that the horse was still very focused? Did it take anything away from being focused?
Danny DeLoach:
No, absolutely. This mare stayed as focused as she could be. As a matter of fact, I took her to a cutting practice where this mare normally she doesn't pay attention to the cow. She just locked in on the cow and did a super great job at the practice [we were 00:07:59] working.
John Dowdy:
Wow.
Danny DeLoach:
So we've been thrilled with it. My wife and I. As a matter of fact, when we went to this cut this last weekend, and I put my little granddaughter up on the horse and she rode over. I said, "Can you believe this is the same horse that we bought four years ago?" And she says, "No, it doesn't even look like it." So we've been thrilled.
John Dowdy:
Yeah. That is fantastic. Now, before we move on to some other examples, going back to your olive oil story there. What is the olive oil doing for the hoof, specifically?
Danny DeLoach:
Well, the one thing it does, when it's really wet it keeps the moisture in the foot. I mean, I'm sorry. When it gets dry, it keeps the moisture in the foot. And then when it gets wet then it helps to keep the moisture out so that it's not as bad. So, that's my theory anyway.
John Dowdy:
We might should buy some stock in olive oil right now.
Danny DeLoach:
Yeah, we are.
John Dowdy:
Yeah. Well, that's pretty interesting. So, in combination with the olive oil on the outside of the hoof and using the Equinety, so it's helping to repair from the inside out. It seems like a pretty good combination. I guess you've been seeing those results over the last four months. So...
Danny DeLoach:
Yes. As a matter of fact, one particular story. I have one client that I deal with, this mare's feet have been terrible. He has two horses. One, her feet stays perfect, never a problem. It looks like she just needs maybe a trim the next time we come. And the other one, her feet are ragged. I've got them started on this and they've been on it now for about two months. And the last time that we went to do this horse's feet, her feet were absolutely perfect. Looked like she didn't even need a trim, but we did trim her and took about three eighths of an inch off her feet. But her feet were not broke up, and not ragged as we normally see them. So he's absolutely thrilled with it.
John Dowdy:
Yeah. So this was in what period of time? Six weeks?
Danny DeLoach:
This was in about, well, probably would have been a three month thing. Because I got him started and then we came and did them again. The last time we did them, we took about three eighths off, but it didn't even look like she needed a trim except her feet were long.
John Dowdy:
Yeah. It definitely helps with the hoof growth. For sure.
Danny DeLoach:
Yeah, absolutely.
John Dowdy:
Yep. So periodically, well, over the last four months, you will call me with stories. Which I love hearing because that's one of the reasons I started the podcast, was also to help capture these stories and get them out there and in the hopes that it would help other people. But I remember this phone call very specifically, because you said in all of my 59 years, I have never seen what I just saw today. And this was a story about a horse that the anxiety was so bad and the hoofs were so tender. And this sucker would just flip over backwards, so pretty dangerous to go work on this horse. I would presume, just hearing that little bit.
Danny DeLoach:
Yeah. This one really was a good example. A great example. This is a stable, that is kind of a rent-a-horse deal. And these folks had bought this buckskin [geld 00:11:49]. And he was a good looking... Or is a good looking rascal. They said that the lady who owned him, couldn't ride him. Said every time she got on him he bucked her off. And so, my grandson did the trimming on him. And we started, and when he first picked his first foot up this horse rared up and fell over backwards. I was worried about him getting hurt. But anyway, we gently got him trimmed. And, and I suggested these folks to go on this Equinety because the experience that I'd had with a horse with anxiety.
Danny DeLoach:
And so, the last time that we went to this barn to do these horses, we had done all the other horses, and I asked the husband, "Where's the buckskin horse?" And he said, "Oh, my wife is gone on a trail ride with him." I said, "On a trail ride with a horse that bucked her off every time?" And he said, "Yeah, he quit bucking." And so she rode up while we were trimming, or after we got through trimming. And my grandson went to this horse and started trimming. He walked all the way around and trimmed his feet. No problem, whatsoever. Just like he had never been a problem. But this was maybe the most amazing story that I even had to tell about it.
John Dowdy:
Yeah. I know when you called me, you were pretty darn excited about that one. I mean, the fact that you had never seen that kind of a transformation in all the years is saying a lot.
Danny DeLoach:
Absolutely. I have friends who rope and they are using it. And they say that their horses perform and work so much better. And their concentration is more on their job than trying to maybe not do their job. So the folks that I've gotten involved in it, and use it, are tickled to death with this product.
John Dowdy:
Right. And so one of the things, and specifically talking about one of your friends that owns a feed and [inaudible 00:14:15] store over there where you are, which you refer a lot of people over to his place. What was one of the challenges with his horses hooves?
Danny DeLoach:
Well, his horses feet coming from the [inaudible 00:14:30], coming down an inch would be shiny. And I said, not a problem. But after he got past that, they had gotten to the stage that they would be really dry. And when you trim the foot, it would be powdery the nails. When you nail a shoe on, not hold as well. Maybe lose a shoe during a period of time. But once you started with this, and of course the foot is made up of cells called [tuples 00:00:15:12]. And tuples are like, if you put your fingers together and looked at it. And the tuples grow down. And the glue that holds the tuples together, after it gets so far down, would just separate and the feet would separate. Become ragged. And the feet, once it started your product and it got enough hoof growth, it would be a shiny foot all the way down and hold a shear when you nail one on.
John Dowdy:
Interesting. And so when you're rasping the hoof... And so, what was the texture like then, versus how it is supposed to be?
Danny DeLoach:
Well, then when rasping is finished with the foot, it would be powdery. What come off would be really powdery. Well, when you do a hoof that is normal and healthy, then when you're rasping it, what comes off looks like coconut shavings. And so then you've got a much better foot there to deal with.
John Dowdy:
Interesting. So the only thing that he changed was just adding the Equinety Horse XL.
Danny DeLoach:
That's all he did. That's the only difference he made.
John Dowdy:
And that was what, in six to eight week time frame, or?
Danny DeLoach:
Yeah. About six to eight weeks time period that this made some changes. Yeah.
John Dowdy:
Yep. So I have to ask you this, which is kind of a leading question, I guess. You probably haven't seen a hoof change that quickly through the years?
Danny DeLoach:
No, I never have seen it change that quickly. It takes normally six to eight months for a foot to grow out from coronary band down to the bottom end. So, sometimes maybe you might get it out fast and it blows [inaudible 00:17:11] at the top of the coronary band or hairline. And it takes you a while for it to grow out. So, this has been an amazing product. Make the foot grow a little faster, and thicken the hoof wall. Not been at it long enough to tell you much about the soft soles, and such, but I'm expecting that to get better.
John Dowdy:
Right. Yeah. And I think it would be good too, if you'd be open to it, maybe do another updated podcast maybe in four or five months or so. That would put us at around eight or nine months down the road, so we can follow up with some of this other stuff, which would be pretty awesome.
Danny DeLoach:
Yes it would be great.
John Dowdy:
So, one of the things about having a great farrier is, having one you've got little trade secret things that have been passed down and passed around. And also you see a lot of horses and a lot of different situations, different conditions. You kind of hear and see what people are using and doing, and what's working and what's not working. I believe it was yesterday or the day before, you had called me. And there was a couple of different horses, I think they may have been paint horses. Tell us about that. They were kind of sunburned. They had lost patches of hair. Had sores all over them. What was going on there?
Danny DeLoach:
Well, one of these horses in particular started on it about three months ago. Started on the product about three months ago. And she had patches of hair that six inches that were completely gone. Now we're talking about a really old horse. I've been doing this horse since she was, basically since they bought her. And I think she was a year old when these folks bought her. And she's probably well in her 30s now. But, it was a light Palomino. So over the years, she's turned into a white horse. And she would, or it would sunburn. And she would lose patches of hair on it. Just had sores. Just awful looking. And got her started on the product and the sores have disappeared. The hair has come back. So she looks like, even in her older years, she looks much better. [inaudible 00:19:47] top line. And most of the time you see [inaudible 00:19:50] top line on an old horse.
Danny DeLoach:
And I would have another client that has a paint horse. She was white across her shoulder. And got sunburned, big sores. And so I got her started on it and now the sores are gone. The hair's come back, and she looks great.
John Dowdy:
Yeah. We're blessed. There's no doubt about that. And we've received phone calls from some of the old timers out there that have tried everything under the sun to help put a top line on their horse. Nothing ever seemed to work. And this was the one thing that they said work for them. Was filling out that top line. But yeah, when you get into the senior horses, this product works really great for the senior horses because it's helping to increase those hormone levels. And of course, for the younger working performance horse, it's great for them because they're an athlete. And they're beating themselves up and we're asking them to do a lot. And so it's pretty darn amazing. Now, have you had any experience with this product and the results of white line thrush? Abscesses? I mean anything along those lines?
Danny DeLoach:
Yes. As a matter of fact, I have. One of the things that horses that have white lines, I encourage them to get started on this product because I want them to grow the foot out. And as a doctor, the white line, if it doesn't grow out, then you're just going to maintain a problem with a white line. So if we can grow it out and doctor it, you can eventually get rid of it. And I've had some pretty good luck getting rid of it with growing the foot out and doctoring.
John Dowdy:
Sure. That is great. Now of course, we've been talking specifically in regards to the Equinety Horse XL, which is the amino acids. Earlier this year, we came out with a secondary product called Equinety Ultimate OEC, which is a flaxseed based omega-3 oil. It's got a thousand IUs of natural vitamin E and colloidal silver all in one. So, that's kind of serving two purposes. I know you, haven't had a whole lot of feedback and experience with that specifically, but I wanted to mention it here on the podcast. So let people know there's two different products, and we're specifically talking about the aminos and Equinety Horse XL. And the Ultimate OEC is a really powerful antioxidant, which helps reduce inflammation. And then it's also giving those repaired cells, nutrition.
John Dowdy:
So all the feedback that we've been getting with the combination of these products has been really positive. Which is why we came out with it. There's nothing like it on the market, in this combination. So if you're looking to help your horse out even a little bit more, I encourage you to try the Ultimate OEC along with the Equinety Horse XL.
John Dowdy:
So I think rounding this podcast out, there's another story. And you have been sending me pictures over the last few months from a client with this horse that they were literally thinking was going to die. I mean, it just looked horrible. Tell us about that horse. What the experience has been from the beginning up until now with this one?
Danny DeLoach:
Well, we went to his lady's house. She had four horses and we went to this lady's house to trim her horses feet. We trimmed the three and I said, what about the fourth one? She said, "She's going to die. There's no point in me trimming her feet." And I said, "Why?" And she said, "Well, she won't eat. And if she does eat, she's just losing weight over and over." And you had given me some of the products. So I gave her one of the little 15 day deals. And I said, "Well start her on this, and try and see what it looks like."
Danny DeLoach:
Well, she took a picture day one. And I can't remember, it seemed like it was day 10 or something. Or maybe it'd just been a week. She sent me another picture. She said, "I don't believe this is the same horse." She had her top line had gone. And her ribs, the weight had begun to fill in some. Smoothed her coat out. So rather than her losing her horse, we gained another horse to trim. This mare has done fantastic.
Danny DeLoach:
And on top of all of that, which I don't think I've even told you this. This mare was a quiver, and it's really hard to keep weight on a quiver. But this mare gained weight.
John Dowdy:
Wow.
Danny DeLoach:
25 years old, she was.
John Dowdy:
That's incredible. So, I have to ask you this obvious question coming up. Have you ever seen anything like that in all your years?
Danny DeLoach:
No, never. I have not. And I've worked on horses for 59 years. This has been a real experience. And I'm just thrilled that I did find the product and I got started on for myself. One of my clients a while back, I suggested that they do it. And so she says, "Well, what do you get out of it?" I said, "Well, I get the satisfaction of seeing your horse get better. And I hope you do too."
John Dowdy:
Yep. Yeah, because we are definitely not paying you for this information in this podcast.
Danny DeLoach:
No.
John Dowdy:
Just so anybody knows it's a non solicited here.
Danny DeLoach:
Is not, was not solicited. That's correct.
John Dowdy:
Yep. And I think too, from a company standpoint, it makes me feel really good knowing that we've got a really great product, and now two products, that are really helping these horses in so many ways. And as I mentioned in the beginning of the podcast, how the product is actually working in the body by giving the body what it needs to release its own hormones. And these hormones are specific for repair. So, in this case, we've given about, I don't know, six or seven different examples.
John Dowdy:
But, you could have a hundred horses with a hundred different issues going on, and because we're allowing the body to send its own hormones to the problem areas, in essence, it's customizing to each horse. And this is why it helps in so many ways. In this last example, looking at a horse that the owner had pretty much just written off. And by this time, you had already seen enough of what the product was doing. And what does anybody have to lose? And, we've got these little 15 day samples, which I had given you a bunch of these just to hand out to some of the challenge horses that you may be dealing with. And typically I like going more into 30 days than 15. But, for a horse to turn around that quickly in less than two weeks, it's pretty remarkable.
Danny DeLoach:
Absolutely. I've absolutely just been thrilled with the results that I've seen from it. I think this product may be the best thing that ever happened to our four legged friends.
John Dowdy:
Well, I can't disagree with you there. I mean, we hear and see it on a daily basis. And so, well, Danny DeLoach out of Florida, I really appreciate you taking the time to share your experience, your knowledge and everything here on the Equinety podcast.
Danny DeLoach:
Thank you for calling me and giving me the opportunity. I believe in it and I hope that other people will try it because if you don't try it, you'll never know.
John Dowdy:
I couldn't have said that any better. In so many cases, people are like, well, what do you have to lose? It comes out to a dollar a day. It's very inexpensive for all the benefits. And as one last question for you, if there's anybody listening to this podcast that might still be on the fence, would you have anything to offer to them or say to them that might get them to try it?
Danny DeLoach:
Well, there again, like I said, if you've got a four legged friend that you care anything about. And a horse that has a problem, I just wholeheartedly recommended it. It's been a godsend for me, personally. And then for some others that I have shared this with. They've been thrilled for being able to use it and get the result that they get.
John Dowdy:
Yeah. That is great. Well, Danny DeLoach out of Florida, thank you once again for being on the Equinety podcast.
Danny DeLoach:
Thanks for having me.
John Dowdy:
Thank you. Bye-bye.
