Chris Kinzel – Lameness – White Line – ¼ Crack – Laminitis – 3 to 4% rotation
John Dowdy:
Hello and welcome to this week's Equinety podcast. It's podcast number 133 and we are swinging way out to the Northwest up in Washington. We've got Chris Kinzel on the podcast this week. Chris, welcome to the Team Equinety podcast.
Chris Kinzel:
Hi, John. I'm so happy to be able to talk to you and to share my story.
John Dowdy:
Yeah. When I first came across your story, I think it was in some of the comments through some of the ads we were running on Facebook. And I'm just like, "We got to get that story out there." Because this was kind of a... It could have been classified as a mystery lameness, but it was zeroed in pretty quickly down in the hoof area problem. So, give us some background. What's the name of the horse? How old's the horse? Give us some background and what kind of happened.
Chris Kinzel:
Sure. His name is Petey, he's a registered Quarter Horse. His registered name is A Willie Good Version. So, I bought Petey as a long yearling, coming two year old and had had him for about two years. He was with a trainer and she was feeding him way too high a protein grain. In January of 21 he came up lame, he would be lame and then he'd be sound, and then he'd be lame and then he'd be sound. They thought he had white line, the farrier of my trainer thought he had white line. Well, he cut out the white line on a trip that he had made to the barn and week or so later... I'm going back a little far now, I'm just trying to remember all the [crosstalk 00:01:57] details.
John Dowdy:
A few days have passed since then.
Chris Kinzel:
Yes, exactly. Sp it continued on, he was still lame and sound and lame and sound. A couple two or three weeks later, she texted me and she said, "I think I found out why he's lame." And she had sent me a picture, texted me the picture of the quarter crack. Luckily another farrier in the barn happened to be there that day and he fixed him up, put putty over the crack, and put his shoe back on basically. Cleaned up the crack a little bit. Even after that, shortly after that, it happened again, he came up lame again.
Chris Kinzel:
So, in April, I finally said, "That's it, I just need to bring him home." So I brought him home the 1st of May. He was a crazy man, he was crazy in his stall. She wasn't riding him. Well, come to find out... Well, not find out, I knew this. Because of the 32% protein grain she was feeding him and because he had been lame and sound and lame and sound, he wasn't getting out of his stall or being ridden like he should be. So I brought him home and my husband and I kind of debated on what we were going to do. So a friend of mine said, "Well, you need to have his feet X-rayed." So I said, "Yeah, you're absolutely right."
Chris Kinzel:
I hauled him to a vet here that we have close to us. He's an Equine Podiatrist, wonderful vet, and he's also a farrier. Had him X-rayed and he had laminitis with a 3% to 4% rotation in his coffin bone. I had never in my life had a horse with laminitis, never. So, took him home, our vet, Joey, said, “This is what you need to do.” So we immediately got our farrier out, had to put pads and roll bar shoes on him and put him on Equinety.
Chris Kinzel:
Within a week... Well, back up just a little bit. So when I would hand walk him out in the pasture just to get him out and let him graze on some grass, if he would step on one of the little grass clumps, he would go lame. Just to walk, he was pretty much sound, but if he trotted, you could see the lameness. So, I immediately put him on Equinety and within a week of putting him on Equinety he was sound again. That was May of 2021. He has not taken a lame step since.
John Dowdy:
That's pretty incredible.
Chris Kinzel:
Yeah, it is. My husband is your biggest fan, let me tell you. He said, “You are never, ever taking him off Equinety.” That stuff, I love it, I love it. I thought I was going to have to put another horse down. I had no idea.
John Dowdy:
Wow. Going back to the vet when you found out with the laminitis and the rotation, what was the projected recovery time?
Chris Kinzel:
He didn't tell me, he didn't tell me. He said, “Take him home, make sure you get him off the grain or give him as little grain as you can.” So, I switched him to a very low starch grain and I was afraid he wasn't going to eat it, but he's a chow hound, so luckily, yeah. I just mixed the Equinety in with the grain, with a little bit of water and it mixes right in. There's no problem with it, him eating it, he slurps it right up. I did start out giving him the Equinety twice a day. So I went through two containers of Equinety, giving him twice a day and then I backed down to once a day.
John Dowdy:
Yes, I'll get into the science behind that and the reason two scoops versus one. How long was it from the time your farrier was working on the horse and you started feeding the Equinety until his reaction? When he saw the new hoof growth and everything?
Chris Kinzel:
So, I never get to see my farrier. My husband, because I work and my husband is at home, he's retired. So I never get to see my farrier, but my husband would give me glowing reports. Shane, my farrier, he called me a couple times within the... If not the first, the second trimming. He just kept saying, "You guys need to keep doing what you're doing, keep doing what you're doing. It's getting better." By, I'm going to say November, December, when Shane would trim him and then go to nail the shoe back on. Yeah, it was December. So, my husband Tim had told him, "Please call Chris and tell her what you're seeing and how he's doing." So, he called me that night and he said, "The one great thing is he's not flinching when I nail the shoe back on anymore."
Chris Kinzel:
What kind of timeframe was this?
Chris Kinzel:
May to December.
John Dowdy:
Okay, yeah. This is 2021?
Chris Kinzel:
2021, yeah.
John Dowdy:
Yeah, wow.
Chris Kinzel:
So yeah, when he said that, I started crying. I was so relieved. He said, "He's gotten better." He kept saying, "You can see where he's healing."
John Dowdy:
Sure. Well, the quarter crack, what happened to the quarter crack?
Chris Kinzel:
It's gone. So I just had him re-shot last week and the quarter crack is gone.
John Dowdy:
Yeah. So, I know you had taken the X-rays before and then you're going to have post X-rays done, I guess, next week sometime?
Chris Kinzel:
Yes, next week.
John Dowdy:
Yeah. So we hear this all the time, but when this podcast is posted on our website at teamequinety.com, we'll also have it transcribed. So the X-rays might come in a week or so later, but we'll post the before and afters, because based on all the other before and after X-rays we've seen over eight years, pretty much guarantee that the sole depth is going to be thicker than it once was.
Chris Kinzel:
Yeah, it is. He told me, well and this is going through my husband. He says, “It's just the white line from the laminitis is so small.” But he's continuing to keep putting the nail, nailing the shoe away from that until he thinks that it'll be okay.
John Dowdy:
Yeah. Well, it's interesting because I tell people all the time that the Equinety Horse XL is not a miracle supplement and then we hear stories like this. For all things considered, just changing the environment that the horse is in is going to have a huge positivity for the horse. I mean, we all get that, but what we found over eight years, horses in general, they're typically just lacking in amino acids. One of the things that makes the Equinety Horse XL so unique is it doesn't fit into a specific supplement category. In other words, it's not just a hoof supplement and it's not just a joint supplement, or a recovery supplement, or shiny coat supplement. I mean, it actually helps do all of these things.
John Dowdy:
The way that it works from a scientific aspect, when you give a scoop of this, just one scoop in the morning, as an example, these amino acids are specific to targeting the pituitary gland, which is the gland that releases repairing hormones, to make it simple. Then the body is able to send its own hormones to its own problem areas. So it's customizing to exactly what the horse needs and it takes a lot of the guesswork out of it. The interesting thing is that the hormones that are released have a 23 and a half hour life cycle. So what that means is, when you give a scoop in the morning, by the time you give a scoop the next morning, the hormone levels are back to where they would normally be for that age of a horse. Which is perfectly fine in pretty much all situations.
John Dowdy:
Now you had said or mentioned that you were giving a scoop in the morning and the evening. The science behind that is, for an injured horse and, or even for the working performance horse that doesn't have any injuries or problems per se, but we're after the recovery aspect by giving a scoop in the morning and a scoop in the evening, we're keeping the hormone levels elevated all the time. So it helps promote faster recovery and repair. In all of the situations that we've heard about over eight years, especially with an injured horse, by using two scoops of Equinety, morning and evening... [inaudible 00:12:11], let me clarify, one scoop in the morning, one scoop in the evening, then they're typically always back ahead of schedule.
John Dowdy:
So, going back to what I was saying earlier, the Equinety Horse XL is not a miracle supplement, but it's giving your horse what it needs to help repair itself, taking a lot of the guesswork out and it helps get your horse back to where you want them to be sooner. A lot of farriers are catching on, because we've heard stories through the years where, especially some of the older horses that we just run a rasp on there a couple times and that's their foot care.
Chris Kinzel:
That's right.
John Dowdy:
So, now they'll come out and they go, "What in the world are you giving this horse? We actually had to clip some stuff off." So it really helps promote.
Chris Kinzel:
Yeah, I'm blessed to have a really, really good farrier who really cares about his work.
John Dowdy:
Sure, yeah. That's so important too, I mean, as any horse owner knows, you get the wrong person in there and they do the wrong thing, and now you've got a lame horse and now we got to get him repaired again.
Chris Kinzel:
Exactly. You may not call Equinety a miracle drug, but I sure in hell do. As horse people, we all look at products, we try so much, “I'm going to try this, we try this, we try this.” This doesn't work, quit trying and just go to Equinety. Oh my gosh.
John Dowdy:
Wow. Yeah, I didn't even pay you for that segment, but thank you.
Chris Kinzel:
No, you did not, but I so firmly believe in Equinety right now. I had used it previously, the way I found you, I had used it on my previous gelding that I had to put down before I got Petey. I had had to do a stem cell procedure on a suspensory ligament and gave him Equinety while he was healing from the procedure and he did so well from healing. But I love you, John. I really do, I love your product. Again, like I said, don't try everything, just try Equinety.
John Dowdy:
Well, it's hard to disagree with you on that one. Now I'll throw a couple other things out there and we really appreciate you coming on and sharing the story and the nice comments and everything.
John Dowdy:
I would say one of the big questions that we receive all the time, when people are first learning about the product, because it is so unique. One of the questions is, “Do I stop using all the other supplements and just use Equinety? Or what do we do there?” Well, I come from the school of, “I don't know your horse at all” Then, based on whatever you tell me, we don't want to change anything that you are already doing. So don't change any of your supplement program, your feeding program, anything. Just add a scoop of Equinety Horse XL to it. That way you're only changing one element and it works really quickly.
John Dowdy:
I'll give people the rundown. So, the amino acids are absorbed within hours and it goes right to work. So, what we've heard through the years, horses that have a lot of stress, anxiety, are a bit spooky. We've seen complete demeanor changes in as little as two or three days. For the working performance horse, in about a week to two weeks, people are noticing that they just feel more comfortable on their saddle, they have fast recovery, more stamina, better focus.
John Dowdy:
We get into the 30 day mark and they're going to notice softer, shinier coat, filling out top line, hips area. We've even had a lot of people start to notice a bit more firmness in the sole depth. Although that's going to come more towards the six week mark where you're really going to start getting the overall healthier, stronger, faster hoof growth, which again, gives the farrier more to work with. There's so many other benefits to using the product, because when you can help the horse repair itself from the inside out, that solves a lot of issues. So, it is one of the reasons why we started the podcast and with yours being number 133.
John Dowdy:
Some of the stories that we have on there, where I thought we were going in to talk about one horse, like, "No, I've got five to talk about." So, I'm like, "All right, let's run them down." You could have 50 horses with 50 different things going on and it's so awesome to hear the stories because it really helps, and it helps very quickly. So, I really appreciate you taking the time to share your story about Petey and glad that he's doing so well.
Chris Kinzel:
Yes, he is. John, I mean, I can't tell enough people how wonderful this product is. Equinety has been my lifesaver. Petey, I mean, he's only five, so this summer, with gas prices the way they are, I don't know what's going to happen with us. I hope to do a little showing, but I'm sure whatever it is he's going to be fabulous.
John Dowdy:
Yeah, he's going to be having a good old time.
Chris Kinzel:
Yeah. And being five, so he grew this whole year and yes, he's filled out. My husband keeps saying, "As the wooly bear is shedding out." He's filled out, his top line is getting really nice. Yeah, I can't wait to see him without his winter coat.
John Dowdy:
Yes, yeah. Typically they're as slick as all get-out. They look like a million bucks, but that is so great.
John Dowdy:
Well, Chris Kinzel out of Washington. Thank you so much for taking the time to share your story here on the Team Equinety podcast.
Chris Kinzel:
Thank you, John. I'm so happy that you chose me. Thank you so much.
John Dowdy:
You're very welcome. Thank you. Bye-bye.
Chris Kinzel:
Take care.
