Ann Jones - rescue horse – lame - horrible feet – now running and playing
John Dowdy:
Hello, and welcome to this week's Equinety Podcast, we are swinging back out into the big state of Texas. And we're going to be talking about goats, dogs, horses, and I don't know what else, I think that's it, that will round it out. But we've got Carol Rochester on the podcast this week. Carol, welcome to the Team Equinety Podcast.
Carol Rochester:
Hello, John, it's good to talk to you.
John Dowdy:
Well it's great chatting with you, and I'm excited to have you on this podcast, because I don't, we may have talked about a goat using Equinety in the past, but I don't recall. I'm thinking we did actually one, but this is going to be really interesting because you have a show goat, you've got some sheep dogs, and you've got horses.
So it is going to be a smorgasbord, and we're going to talk about what was going on with these critters, and then what ended up being your go-to product was the Equinety product to help bring these guys back. So let's talk about the goat first, or the goats. Tell us all about that and what was going on.
Carol Rochester:
Okay, well I'm excited to share this with you, because this is a broad spectrum of life still-
John Dowdy:
Yes it is.
Carol Rochester:
... anyway, I suspect it.
Well, the first goat was what we would call a "show goat," and he was a nice goat, really well bred, first edition. And she had to have babies before she could sell as what we call a "senior goat," which is a two- year-old. So we decided to [inaudible 00:01:44] babies as a yearling. Well, the strain of having the babies did something to her hip, well, we thought it was the hip. But then we realized that it was the nerve, it was nerve damage.
Well she couldn't get up when she had the babies to nurse them, so we ended up losing all three babies, which was devastating enough. Then I realized this doe was really pretty crippled. So well I know why I've have handled adult kids, just had no clue why. And we tried a few little things, didn't work. So, you know, "I've got a sample of the Equinety, let me try that work on the cellular level."
And she had a couple of doses of it over once a day. At the first day she managed to stand up. She couldn't put her leg down, but she could stand up on three legs with the leg hanging. And I thought, "Well, something's working here, and it's not anything but that Equinety." So she started to eat a little bit, so we kept her on the Equinety, she was getting around somewhat, still couldn't put the leg down.
About a week into it, I watched her one day and I saw her put that toe down, and I thought, "This is looking good." About two hours later she's trying it a little more, little more, and I noticed she could actually put it down. And within about two or three weeks, I had her out in a small turnout, and she was exercising pretty much like a normal goat.
And I didn't... I mean, I was thrilled that she was still alive, well except for those babies. And the following year the doe went back to the showing, which was the plan. And she showed from Fort Worth stock show in January, right through the months to come and the State Fair in September, she was champion at every show she went to.
John Dowdy:
Holy smokes.
Carol Rochester:
So she was well worth saving, but I knew that anyway.
John Dowdy:
That's incredible.
Carol Rochester:
I knew right then that it's Equinety, it's something about this Equinety.
John Dowdy:
Yeah.
Carol Rochester:
I just... and for me being, you know, goat owner and not so much a horse, though I do have a few, I knew there was some support with something I did, just to try it, I read it right there and searched on it. And I thought, "I'll get me a pot of that. You never know when you might need it." Gosh, I'm so glad I did, yeah.
John Dowdy:
Yeah. Now, for those who are tuning in for the first time and wondering, "Hey, is this safe for my goats or dogs or any other critters you might have running around?", yes it is. I'll tell you briefly what it is. If you're tuning in, you're just kind of learning about the Equinety product, and then that'll flow in with our other stories that are going along here.
So the Equinety Horse XL is 100% pure amino acid. There's no fillers, no sugars, no starches, and there's no loading dose. So a serving size is 5.2 grams, which is roughly a teaspoon. And interestingly enough, the same dose goes for everybody, because we're targeting the pituitary gland, which is roughly the same size anywhere from a pea to a plum.
And so just one scoop of Equinety, and what makes it so unique, and we've had so many mystery lameness type things too, but if you tune into these podcasts there's stories from all over the map with different things going on. But what makes the product so unique is when you give a scoop of the product, say in the morning, as an example, it's absorbed very rapidly and it targets the pituitary gland, which is a gland that releases hormones.
And when those hormones are released, then the body is able to send its own hormones to its own problem areas. And this is why it helps in so many ways and customizes to the animal's body. And this is where it's working at the cellular level. So it takes out a lot of the guesswork. And when those hormones are released, they have a 23-and-a-half-hour life cycle. So, if you give a scoop in the morning, by the time you give a scoop to following morning, the hormone levels are back to where they would normally be for that age of the animal. So that's why you give the product every day.
So when you're dealing with an injured animal or performance or show, we recommend a scoop in the morning and a scoop in the evening, and then that helps keep the hormone levels elevated. And that just helps with fast recovery, more stamina, focus, and things like that. So I wanted to throw all that in there to give everybody tuning in an idea of exactly how the product is working and why it's working.
And so in this goat, this show goat, it... Now let me throw this in there too. I tell people it's not a miracle supplement, but it sure does some miraculous things. And you listen to these stories and you're like, "Come on, that's a little too good to be true," but we have a lot more stories here with Carol. So-
Carol Rochester:
Yeah.
John Dowdy:
... so, okay. So that was a show goat now. So that was in 2019, and you're still the goat-
Carol Rochester:
Actually, that was 2018, she didn't go back to showing until 2019.
John Dowdy:
Okay.
Carol Rochester:
And I think at the end of 2019, the beginning of 2020, I had a young, a former gold goat, that had shipped here from Louisiana with her mother. She was way too old to still be on her mother. So I weaned her, and also I wormed her, which hindsight is maybe I shouldn't have done so much in one goat. But for whatever reason, she came down with polio. And for anybody who's had goats, that's the most devastating thing to watch these goats slipping away, and you're trying to do everything you can, but you can't save them. They just drift away.
And I was watching this poor little goat, I just couldn't help her. And I could see her eyes were going down, "I'm going to lose this goat. And I wonder if the Equinety [inaudible 00:07:46] help." And again, it's another show goat, we don't raise meat goats. Well, they are meat goats, but they're not marked meat goats.
John Dowdy:
Yeah.
Carol Rochester:
Okay, so I ran into the [inaudible 00:07:57]. Okay, let's try to teach them a bit. I gave it. And I knew the time because I had been on the phone with someone. I gave it to her at 11:00. I gave her another teaspoon, and I know it's not that low dose, with this polio, it's devastating. You have to keep testing. I gave her another one probably about 6:00 that night. And that doe looked at me, her eyes were a little brighter. The next day she was standing up, going to [inaudible 00:08:32], and looking at me walking toward me.
And one creature that you know, the way it's been recovered. Goats' eyes will go down. They'll tell you when they're sick, easily. Okay? So that goat could look up at me and be where I was. I knew I was winning that battle.
John Dowdy:
Wow
Carol Rochester:
So we kept with the Equinety about another week, and she was back to eating and back to normal. I just, I don't know what caused it, whether it was the trauma of shifting and me worming her, and then [inaudible 00:08:55]. I don't really know what-
John Dowdy:
Sure
Carol Rochester:
... caused it.
John Dowdy:
Yep.
Carol Rochester:
I know the Equinety straightened it out.
John Dowdy:
Yeah, so you had mentioned so the goats having polio, and this is, what's the percentage of goats that actually make it through something like that?
Carol Rochester:
Not very many. I don't have many get polio, but it is something that's been associated to breeders. It's about probably 2%, maybe 1% of your kidding season, you're going to lose one to polio. And it's usually the ones that eat the most, are growing the best. It's some sort of imbalance, the way they are digesting or processing the minerals and vitamins. And it just, well, I don't think that's the right term for it, but we all call it "polio."
John Dowdy:
Sure.
Carol Rochester:
I don't know if that's the right term, but everybody knows what you're about with polio. And it's usually a gestation you can say about 1% maybe?
John Dowdy:
Wow.
Carol Rochester:
But you'd better know that they're coming down with it almost like the instant they are coming down with it, it's really hard to see. I spend a lot of time with my animals that go on [inaudible 00:10:25], and work for the animals. And anybody, a scenario, they'll walk and you think they're drink. That's the only way to describe it-
John Dowdy:
Wow.
Carol Rochester:
... they look drunk. And what that is is the brain is swelling and it's working on the mobility of the spine.
John Dowdy:
I see.
Carol Rochester:
And if you can get that stopped in that first 6 to 12 hours, you have a chance to save them, but I wouldn't approach that.
John Dowdy:
Wow. Well that would-
Carol Rochester:
It's just not-
John Dowdy:
... be great if the Equinety Horse XL would be help increase the survival rate of that, that would be pretty awesome.
Carol Rochester:
Yes. Oh yes, because it's definitely a gut system, and it would deliver [inaudible 00:11:13] to get a firm thought of them [inaudible 00:11:14] for a little goat. A former [inaudible 00:11:18], I mean it's good size, but they're not huge. I've often thought about maybe mixing it up in a little sterile water and [inaudible 00:11:26] it.
John Dowdy:
Yeah, we have quite a few people in the horse world that if we rarely have horses that don't eat the product, because it's own only a teaspoon and it's kind of salty by nature. There's no salt added to it. It's just amino acids are a little bit salty, so they kind of lick it up. But we have people that put it in a syringe with water and they'll administer it that way sometimes.
Carol Rochester:
Oh, okay. Well I'll try and remember that, because that would be an easier way to administer that.
John Dowdy:
Right. Yeah. Awesome. Okay, so let's go on to the rescue horse that you had, or the retired barrel horse, rather.
Carol Rochester:
Well, the rescue horse hasn't had problems. It was the barrel horse,
John Dowdy:
Oh okay, yeah, the barrel horse, my apologies.
Carol Rochester:
Yes. The rescue horse is on it, because the barrel horse is on it. I didn't see any reason to not let him have some.
John Dowdy:
Yeah. That's typically what happens is people have one problem horse, they start it and see, "Oh my goodness, look at everything that's going on." And then they think, "Well, maybe this horse should have it." And the next thing you know, the whole barn's on it, so.
Carol Rochester:
Yeah. But that barrel horse, we have owned him about 14 years, and he actually belongs to my daughter, but he's retired here with me. And he's been healthy and sound all his life, which is unusual for a barrel horse. Never had any injections in his joints, amazing. And he's always been a really good, healthy, sound horse.
And this summer, this past 2021 summer, for whatever reason he started to get a little body sickness to him and a crusty neck. And he's not out on grass, he's in a corral. And he does a little what we call then, he's a little footsore. So that really concerns me a little bit, and this horse has worn shoes all his life.
And I for some reason was trying to take him getting off his shoes, so that was going on at the same time however, and we did x-rays. But I [inaudible 00:13:32] got the bed out and just pulled the bed out, and I wasn't here the day the vet came. They x-rayed him, and [inaudible 00:13:39] a little bit [inaudible 00:13:43] on the... but [inaudible 00:13:46] blood, and we got the results a few days later. And he said he was borderline [inaudible 00:13:55].
This one simply for the thoroughbreds, they generally don't x-ray them, although [inaudible 00:14:00] might be going in [inaudible 00:14:03]. And then I thought he was born with that, I [inaudible 00:14:14] before. And [inaudible 00:14:14] only tried some [inaudible 00:14:14] go get the pound [inaudible 00:14:16].
I put him on the Equinety, and I did have [inaudible 00:14:19] come out to put some [inaudible 00:14:20] I think it's 18 years [inaudible 00:14:21]. They are able to call a certain team efficient, and [inaudible 00:14:31] floor. And just about a week, a week-and-a-half, maybe two weeks, this horse wasn't footsore anymore. In about a month, all the extra growth, muscle-muscle infection, it had all gone. And the horse was [inaudible 00:14:49].
John Dowdy:
Wow.
Carol Rochester:
I just... I can't explain it, but we're taking [inaudible 00:14:56] miraculous recovery for what I thought might end up as a death sentence. So, you know, it's another story with Equinety, it's a miracle.
John Dowdy:
Yeah, so that is absolutely amazing. And we have a lot of people that say, "Oh, this is a miracle thing, or give me the miracle powder," whatever. I tell people, "Hey, it's not a miracle supplement, but it does some miraculous things. How about that?" Because-
Carol Rochester:
Well, I totally agree with you.
John Dowdy:
Yeah. I know there-
Carol Rochester:
We keep this horse, three horses on it because I don't want to take him off. And we do have a cotton horse that's now a rope horse. And he's on it too just because it seems to help in everyday life for them then.
John Dowdy:
Well, you know what we found, we've been on the market now eight years. And even with the horses that don't have any, quote, quote, "issues" going on, we have a lot of people that use it as a preventative type thing. And the other thing that we found whether it be in the high performance barns, they get the creme de la creme of everything that they can possibly get nutritional-wise and care, and to the rescue facility that's doing the best that they can in that aspect and everything in-between, when they put a scoop of this Equinety Horse XL in their feed, they all seem to be benefiting.
Which just shows there's a lack of the right amount of amino acids in their diet. And so, but in your stories, of course, we're talking goats, and then we've got your Border Collie is the next story coming up. So tell us, give us some history on this Border Collie.
Carol Rochester:
Okay. Well, this Border Collie was trained as a young dog to be a security dog, which is a pretty big competition. And we never did go, I don't really remember the reason, but I'd gotten him right after he'd just turned two years. And he was a really strong dog, little bit stronger than what I'm used to. So I didn't use him very much on the sheep and goat.
And I just tried to work him a little bit, he's really hyper, he's really good, and he's a lot faster than I am, and I can't shut him down sometimes. But he's progressed, I mean, over the last three years, he's got really good. He's my go-to dog [inaudible 00:17:25] now. So I moved some sheep quick, in one afternoon. He didn't have to a whole lot, he just had to round them up, move them across the open area, and into winter pasture. This was October the last year, about the 28th of October.
Nothing out of the ordinary, it starts to get dark. I pretty much, I feed him. The dogs don't live outside, and they're going out there in their runs, because a Border Collie will go self-employ if you're not out there. He'll go and bring everything, it's pretty amazing. They just do that. So they're restricted, and then someone's out there. And I put him away, nothing unusual.
Next morning, I go up there, I usually start early at just about sunup, I go to his pen. He's sitting there by the door, I open the door. He can't move from the shoulders back.
John Dowdy:
Oh my gosh.
Carol Rochester:
He was completely paralyzed. He's bright and himself, his eyes are bright and he's bright, he can't move. Well, he scooted along, but I kind of put a stop to it. I was devastated. I had no clues, no answers. His pain's pretty safe, and he didn't get hurt the day before.
So we scooped him up, took him to a local dog and cat vet, because my vets are all big animal vets. Looking to somebody who deals with these animals. And we take him in, they looked at him, [inaudible 00:19:02] blood, has no [inaudible 00:19:06]. They give me some muscle relaxers, a steroid, and I don't remember what the other one was, but those are three pills he was to have twice a day.
Anyhow, he spent three or four days doing this. But you can imagine, I mean, I'm devastated by this time.
John Dowdy:
Right.
Carol Rochester:
I just-
John Dowdy:
Yeah.
Carol Rochester:
... I just didn't know what to do with him, what way to put him from the vet. But he didn't show any signs of improvement, not any. And they had given me a leaflet in the vet, said I might want to call this person. There was a lady vet that lived pretty close, that she does acupuncture. So I called her out and she does acupuncture on him, and she has no answers either.
But I'm pretty high on chiropractor acupuncture type things. We use chiropractor in the whole two to three years. So I'm willing to give it a try and she tells me she'd been doing about twice, three times a week, depending how he's doing.
So when the timing starts in these treatments where she likes two of them, going nowhere. Walked in the feed room and I've seen my little pot of Equinety. And I was like, "Well, why don't I try him on a little bit of this? It's helped everything else, why not this dog?"
John Dowdy:
Yeah.
Carol Rochester:
So, they had switched him from Kibbles to canned dog food because obviously the effort of straining is something he couldn't do. So they wanted me to keep him on a soft food, so that was easy. I just went for the R&D edit. She came back and treated him for the third time. Then we go one or two days before she comes back.
So he was on that Equinety about three days. He was laying out in the sun where I had put him. And actually [inaudible 00:21:01] and gnaw at his toe. And I'm like, "Oh my gosh, what is causing that?" So I automatically call her on the phone, I had her on speed dial by this time. And I said, "My dog's chewing back toes pretty fiercely, what's he doing?" She said, "He's getting a tingling sensation is my bet." She said he'd start with a tingling, bet. He'd been on the Equinety in three days. I didn't even tell her he was on it. And for-
John Dowdy:
For how many days?
Carol Rochester:
Three days.
John Dowdy:
Three days. Wow.
Carol Rochester:
Three days. She comes back the next day, does his treatment. It goes probably about another two or three days, we've got this dog up. He's not taking weight real well, but he's standing. He might fall down, but he'll take two or three steps and he'll fall down. But we're going in the right direction.
John Dowdy:
Right.
Carol Rochester:
This goes on for about another week or so. And then he is up and walking a little. I can't let him off of a leash because I already told you he's a really hyper dog. I didn't say I had him running anywhere. So he was pretty restricted, but at least I was able to walk him on a leash, trying to go to the bathroom, which had been a problem.
And it just went down, it was on the good side from there on, it took about four weeks to get him back to normal. And by "normal," I'm talking, looking like a normal dog. I really didn't this dog would ever work again. He still doesn't look quite right on one leg when he runs, because he is back to normal and he is back to working.
He protects himself a little bit. He kind of runs, we call it like a wiggly worm, but he kind of takes care of himself. And he loves to work, but I keep him on a little Equinety just because. That's my for using it, just because.
John Dowdy:
Well-
Carol Rochester:
And that's my story on the dog, I mean.
John Dowdy:
... oh man, that's... Well, you know what? And I tell people too, "The Equinety Horse XL, it's not the end-all, be-all, the miracle thing. But you know what? When you're at your end of the rope and you've tried all kinds of other things, it's a great place to turn." Hopefully you're have found out about it before you get to that point.
But you know, used in combination with the vet or the acupuncture or whatever the case is, it's just going to help speed up everything. So, it's whatever the missing puzzle piece was, and if this was it, then hallelu.
Carol Rochester:
Yeah. And you know, nobody to this day tells what this sick dog is. Nobody. You know, I've had a lot of theories, my husband thinks he had a stroke. I think he may have fell out of the... they used to sleep in these barrels, because I took those away the very first day, they have Igloos in their pet. I don't have jumping up into anything.
Like I told you, he was a hyper dog. Maybe he leapt out of his barrel and fell out of it, who knows.
John Dowdy:
Yep.
Carol Rochester:
He does... at the very beginning, he had a slight arch to his back. And the acupuncture lady, she did say there was definitely heat as well, I felt it myself too. She showed me in the middle of his back, up on his spine. What this dog did I have no clue.
John Dowdy:
Wow.
Carol Rochester:
No clue. But he'll be on Equinety for the rest of his life, because I don't want him going through this again. I don't want me going through this again.
John Dowdy:
Yeah. No doubt
Carol Rochester:
To lose your best friend like that, it's devastating. I think it's right down to the product now. Well, from now on, I haven't had anything happen in awhile, but it's my go-to product. And like he said, yes, I was using acupuncture. I finished up his pills from the vet. I don't think they did any good. They wanted me to renew them, but I didn't. He was making progress, so I didn't see any point in putting pills in him for any reason.
John Dowdy:
Right.
Carol Rochester:
And I weaned him after the last slot, I kind of had to wean him. Especially the steroids, everybody said to me, "Oh, be careful, get him off the steroids." So, and I-
John Dowdy:
Yeah-
Carol Rochester:
... realize medication has its place in everything, but I'd soon go the other routes if I can.
John Dowdy:
Yeah. I tell you, it's-
Carol Rochester:
And Equinety-
John Dowdy:
Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead.
Carol Rochester:
I was going to say, Equinety is the other route for me.
John Dowdy:
Well, I'm grateful to hear that. And I know a lot of people tuning in are going to hear these stories and go, "Wait a minute, this sounds way too good to be true," or I paid you to talk about all this stuff.
Carol Rochester:
[inaudible 00:26:17]. I'm telling you, if I was listening to it, because I am very skeptical about all these wonderful potions that are out there. But I can confirm this. I don't know what this stuff does. And like you say, it's not a miracle cure, but it does something. And around here it really is a miracle cure, but I'm not going to call it that. It's working within what I'm trying to do. And it just seems to work for me.
And I have a website if anybody...
John Dowdy:
Yes, what is your website?
Carol Rochester:
It's boer, B-O-E-R, which is the goat. Boergoatworld, I'm sorry, boergoatworld.com.
John Dowdy:
boergoatworld.com, I'll make sure I put that in the transcription here, and then anybody tuning in, yeah, can check that out.
Carol Rochester:
And I have an email on there that they can click on and they're skeptical, tell them to email me. And they can hear it directly from me, or they can call me. My phone number's on there.
John Dowdy:
Oh, all right. Well, you-
Carol Rochester:
I'm telling you, this is... this product's for real. And from goats to dogs, to horses, that's like the broad spectrum. I mean.
John Dowdy:
Absolutely, you've got to keep them all, and especially in what you're doing from the show goats and your working dogs and your horse, I mean, it's... Or horses, rather, you know, keep keeping them all, you're relying on, on them to, to do their job. And as you mentioned with your dog, your best friend there, I mean, you've got to keep him in top shape. So... yeah.
Carol Rochester:
Yeah. And I was kind of surprised when you contacted me and asked me if I'd like to go on the podcast. And it was only because I put a little thing, because you know, somebody had said something about the product and I went, "No, that product's not at all like that. It works. I promise you it works."
John Dowdy:
Yeah. So for those who are tuning in, we run a lot of ads on Facebook. And so I hadn't run any ads in, I don't know, a couple months or something like that. So I put a new one up. And it was just starting to get going, and the comments started coming in and we'll just say that there were more negative nellies on there than positive as it was first getting started.
So this is when you found it and you're like, "No, no, no, that's not right." So then you put your comment in there and that's how I found you, and I reached out to you, and here we are.
Carol Rochester:
Yeah. As you may have noticed, after I made the comment, a few other people got brave too and made a comment.
John Dowdy:
Yeah. And now I think it's taken over with all positives on there, so.
Carol Rochester:
Positive. Well yeah, because there is no non-positive, I've never had it not work so far.
John Dowdy:
Yeah, it's very interesting because with so many things out on the market, and a lot of times it's hard for people to believe that something's actually going to work. And the odds of this working are so high, upper 90 percentile. Actually it is 100% because they are amino acids, which are the building blocks of protein. So they have to work.
So now it just comes into, what's the person's reality, and what are they looking for? I mean, it's not going to... all of a sudden you start giving them the product and now your horse is in the winning circle. Although that has happened too. But.
Carol Rochester:
Yeah. Well, I do have experience with some race horses, they use it too.
John Dowdy:
Ah, there we go. Yeah. But it's got to be, you've got to keep things in perspective, and it's giving the body what it needs to help repair at the cellular level. And it's just helped so many animals and obviously way more horses because it's in the horse industry. But with goats and dogs, and a lot of people are using it on their mules. And so it's pretty, pretty awesome. We're definitely blessed.
Carol Rochester:
Well, I'm just glad you put the product out there and I was able to find it.
John Dowdy:
Yeah, absolutely. So, well, Carol Rochester out of Texas, thank you so much for taking the time to share your stories here on the Team Equinety Podcast.
Carol Rochester:
Thank you very much for calling. I really enjoyed it. And I hope people try the product.
John Dowdy:
Yeah-
Carol Rochester:
So try the sample.
John Dowdy:
... yes.
Carol Rochester:
That is all I can think of, try the sample.
John Dowdy:
Yeah, this the 15-day sample we have right at our website at teamequinity.com. So, awesome Carol, well thank you so much.
Carol Rochester:
Thank you.
John Dowdy:
All right.
Carol Rochester:
Bye-bye.
John Dowdy:
Bye-bye.