Jessica Moore - Whiteline – Thrush – Collapsed heals – Navicular
John Dowdy: Hello and welcome to another Equinety podcast. I am really excited this week to have on Jessica Moore out of Copperas Cove, Texas, and I'm telling you if you are dealing with any kind of hoof issues, this is the podcast to tune into. We're going to be talking about white line, thrush, collapsed heels, navicular, even getting into some arthritic issues. Without further ado, Jessica, welcome to the Equinety podcast.
Jessica Moore: Hi, thank you for having me.
John Dowdy: Well, it's great to have you on. So let's get right into this. We're going to be talking about your 17-year-old rescue named Rooster. Tell us how you acquired Rooster and what was going on with him when you got him in.
Jessica Moore: Well, Rooster was offered up on Facebook as a free horse, and a lady was going through a divorce and she just needed him to go. She'd had him up for sale, couldn't sell him, and I told her that I would take him. I didn't hear from her for a little bit and then she messaged me and said, "If you're still want him, he's yours." I was like, "Let me hook up the trailer," and I head out to go pick him up. When she brought him to the trailer he was limping a little bit, but she was walking across rocks and he didn't have shoes on. And she's like, "He's just tender-footed." Okay. Not a big deal. We get him into the trailer and I take him back to my place. And then we started noticing that the limping was coming a little bit more and he was coming up more lame.
Jessica Moore: And so I started looking into maybe putting some boots on, that she said he was just tender-footed when it came to rocks. And I started looking at boots and the prices and which ones that he could say in a paddock 24/7 with, and I just decided before I go and spend all this money, let me have an X-ray because I know nothing of this horse. So I loaded him up and I took him down to my vet where we had X-rays done of his feet. And it came back he was diagnosed with moderate navicular disease. And so, she said she didn't know how severe because we didn't do an MRI, we just did X-rays.
Jessica Moore: And they did a a nerve block in him on the foot that was bothering him the worst. We later discovered that he had severe thrush. He had white line disease as well. He did have some arthritis. He was impaled in one of his shoulders by, I don't know what. But he's got a big gouge. So we put him on pain meds, brought him back. And he showed some improvement with the pain meds and with the nerve block. It still wasn't enough. I was soaking his feet in Oxine every other day, scrubbing his feet. We still weren't seeing a huge improvement from it and we decide to change his feed. We went to an extruded feed and started rationing out his hay. We did start to see some improvements after that.
Jessica Moore: The Equinety, the ad kept coming up, but I kept passing it because I was skeptical. I want to do the research. I want the numbers in front of me. I want to see results before I go and jump on this miracle stuff that's supposed to help. So I'm a little stubborn, but I kept reading and I came across this one on the Equinety site where it was a horse that was suffering from navicular. And I saw the results from it. And most people tell you that when they get the navicular disease that eventually it's a death sentence for them, and I wasn't going to give up on him. He may be 17 years old, but he's still got a lot of life left in him.
John Dowdy: Sure.
Jessica Moore: Part of me just wanted to try it after reading so many different stories on Equinety's Facebook, just combing through. I didn't focus on just all the horses that had navicular, I wanted to see the results of all the horses from different aspects. So then I said, you know what? I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to give this a try. I didn't tell anybody. I didn't tell my farrier. I didn't tell the vet. I didn't tell anybody. I just wanted to try it and I kept it under wraps because if it didn't work, nobody knew.
John Dowdy: Yes.
Jessica Moore: If it did, then I'd be like, "Oh well, this is what I put him on."
John Dowdy: Yep.
Jessica Moore: I got the 15 day and then it offered me for the other 15 day and I was like, you know what? I'll go ahead and do 30 days. I'm just going to try this for a full 30 days. We'll see what kind of results that we get. So my farrier had just come out, trimmed up his hooves. I got pictures of the day that she came out and trimmed up his hooves, and that was right before we started this. I also took pictures after 30 days of him being on it of his hooves. She now has to come out and trim his hooves every three to four weeks because we're doing corrective. But his hooves are growing so fast that she has to come out more often.
John Dowdy: Yeah. Now before we get into that, let's go back to you ordered the product initially, or the first order for the 30 days, because you're looking at doing the 30 day challenge. August 3rd is when you had placed the order and around August 13th you sent some initial pictures in. Now, one of the things that you had told me that Rooster had just excessive sweating. Tell us a little bit about that and what you found after just a few days of using Equinety what was going on. Because you had sent pictures in, without getting too graphic going on, but what was going on?
Jessica Moore: Rooster, when I first brought him home, we live in Texas and we were having triple digit weather. We had more rain than usual and it was very humid. So when I would go out to feed him at 9:00, 10:00 in the morning, he would be drenched with sweat all down his neck, down his shoulders, running down his legs. It looked like you had pulled him out, put him in the round pen, worked him hard and then put him back up. At first I was like, okay, well maybe it's the humidity, the heat. I kept looking around at the other horses that were around. I'm like, nobody else is sweating like this. So I started adding salt because I didn't want him to dehydrate on me. I started adding the salt to his feed once a day.
Jessica Moore: I got my Equinety in and then started adding that to the feed. A couple of days later I started noticing he was scouring. I would go out to his paddock and it was just cow patties. So I sent in a message and I was like, "What is going on? Why is this happening?" I was ready to pull it, take him off of it and just cut my losses on it. I get this message that there's nothing in the product that would cause this.
Jessica Moore: I go to start doing some research about everything that he's in. I didn't change his feed. He's on an extruded feed. His hay is the same. He wasn't eating anything other than that. With the research that I was doing, it showed that a massive amount of salt can cause issues as well. We pulled his salt and within a couple of days everything went back to normal. His stools went back to normal. I never changed how much I was giving of the Equinety. I never changed his feed, I never changed his hay. I just stopped putting the salt on top of his hay, on top of his feed. And then everything leveled back out.
John Dowdy: Yeah. And with that being said, and every now and then we will receive messages like that. It's like, "Oh, I started the Equinety and now this is now happening." You know, something that's not positive. And for those tuning in, and just like what I went back and forth with you in Messenger, there is absolutely nothing in the Equinety that has any negative side effects because it is 100% pure amino acids, which are the building blocks of protein. So if you started the Equinety and there's something weird going on, then just check and see what else you might have just added, like in this case. Because in our communications I didn't know that you had added salt, but I wouldn't know that you added salt. And you didn't know because you were trying to fix the sweating aspect. So this is also why we recommend when you start the Equinety, don't change anything else that you're doing and just add the Equinety. That way you know it's the only element.
John Dowdy: So in this case it just happened you started the salt and then few days later you started the Equinety. And fortunately through your research you found that, hey, the salt could be doing it. So when you took that away, then everything leveled itself out, which is perfect. So now we jump ahead 30 days later. And you had sent me some video, before and after, which you tagged the 30 day challenge. So what did you find? And of course, again, just to reiterate, you're battling with a white line, thrush, collapsed heels, navicular, some arthritis. So let's skip ahead 30 days and tell us what's going on at the 30 day mark. And actually we're a little bit beyond that, about seven weeks in, but what are you finding now?
Jessica Moore: Well, now it was one day I was looking at Rooster and I realized it was early in the morning usually when he's starting to pour sweat. And I looked at him and it just clicked. He's not sweating. There's not an ounce of sweat on him right now. He's standing out here and he's not sweating. His demeanor had changed. He'd always been an aggressive ... When I first got him, he was extremely food aggressive. He tried to roll my mare several times, cut her up pretty bad and everything. And this was over a fence line. And after he'd finished his first 30 days of it, I noticed the sweating was gone, the attitude was gone. He was calmer. He wasn't near as hyped up. He didn't seem angry, irritated. He wasn't acting like he was just starved.
Jessica Moore: If anything got near, a human that's different. You could go with his food, that's fine, but any other animal couldn't get near his food. His feet. I took a picture of his feet and sent it to my farrier and all she could send me was little hearts. She was so happy with his feet and how much they had improved in just the short amount of time that I had started it and between her last trimming and the next trimming that I had to do. And I had to bump it up because she was only going to come out every four to five weeks. She was now having to come out every three to four weeks because his feet are growing so fast.
John Dowdy: Right. And what did you find with with the frogs?
Jessica Moore: His frogs are starting to shed out for the first time. The old damaged is shedding off in his new bright, beautiful frogs are coming in. He's not near as tender- footed with them. The thrush has actually cleared out of three of his feet. We're still working on one. It was the worst one of all of them, but it is about 85% improved. Almost. We've got our fingers crossed, we're so close. The white line disease is clearing out. It's growing out. We've got a little bit more to go on it, but when she came out, I showed her what product that I had started on and she was amazed by that and she's curious to see what it's going to do as we keep using it.
John Dowdy: Sure. Yep. And how about the collapsed heels?
Jessica Moore: They're growing out. He no longer looks like he's got, she likes to refer to it as a butt crack. She's like, "They're growing out to where it looks more like a thumbprint now, the way that it's supposed to." He's not near as tender-footed because he's not landing near as much on his heels, he's actually leveling out with them. You can press on his heels now where it was collapsed, where it used to be super, super tender and it's not tender anymore.
John Dowdy: I tell you, it's going to be really interesting over the next month to two months as we continue to see the progress in this. And on our website at teamequinety.com where we're going to have this podcast uploaded, as well as on iTunes and several other places, but on our web site specifically, we'll have this entire podcast transcribed and then we'll have your video, your 30 day challenge video, as well as any other pictures that we can show before and after. And when you get an updated X-ray, if you decide to have one of those, we can put those up there as well so people can see.
John Dowdy: But I think this is very encouraging to people that are frustrated, that have tried all kinds of things, or that may be just be looking for something and might be as skeptical as you were, that they'll go ahead and give this a try, the Equinety product. Because this isn't our only story with things like this and we try to capture as many as we can and put it out there, so if you're dealing with situation like this, maybe this can give you some hope. And we've just seen it time and time and time again. Well, is there anything else that you would like to add that we haven't touched upon with Rooster?
Jessica Moore: Well, the one thing, the biggest drastic notice in the differences is, is is the first video you never see Rooster get faster than his trot. Everything was too painful for him. That's as fast as he would get. It didn't matter how much you clicked at him, how much you had the lunge whip flying around. That was it. It hurt too much for him. The second video was about 30 days after I put him out there, and that was the first time that we'd ever seen him run or get into a lope. His previous owner had had him for three years and said she had never seen him do that.
John Dowdy: Wow.
Jessica Moore: And that right there, just seeing that difference to where he's actually moving, was well worth it.
John Dowdy: Sure.
Jessica Moore: He wasn't in near as much pain. His main had grown out. His tail is now dragging the ground and it's just ... He's getting there. We do plan on having X-rays done again after being on this for about a year. We want to go and see how much of this has has changed. Whether it stayed the same, it's gotten better, or it's gotten worse, but we want to give this a full year while he's on it to see how much this can change with that navicular disease.
John Dowdy: Sure. That will be very, very interesting. And also, I'll throw in there, because you mentioned the growth of the main and the tail and demeanor and everything else that's changing, and if you're listening in for the first time and you're wondering, okay, well how can one product, which is the Equinety Horse XL, and by the way, a serving size is 5.2 grams. This tiny little scoop that's not even a tablespoon. And most people are like, "How in the world can this little tiny scoop do all this stuff?" Well, the amino acids are specifically formulated to stimulate the pituitary gland, which the pituitary gland is the master gland in the body and that's what releases the necessary hormones, which then help heal at a cellular level. So we're actually giving the horse what it needs to help heal itself from the inside out. And so it's deciding where these repairs need to happen.
John Dowdy: In this case, it's mainly around the hoof, but you're also seeing the main and the tail. And I'm sure the coat is softer, shinier. Probably filling out a little bit more muscle-wise, but the attitude and demeanor is less stressed, not as nervous. And so, that affects everything in a horse. I mean, when you're hurting then sometimes you feel cranky and all these other things. Same thing with the horse.
John Dowdy: Well, Jessica, I really, really appreciate you taking the time to share your story. And would you have anything else to say to anybody? I know you mentioned in the beginning when you kept seeing the ad you were very skeptical. What would you have to say to anybody that might be kind of in the same position, they're seeing the ads wrote roll across all the time, thinking, hey, this is too good to be true. What would you have to tell them other than all the stuff that you've told them about the story to maybe get them to go ahead and try the 30 day challenge?
Jessica Moore: With it, when you're doing your research on it, trying to decide what product, because there are a lot of them out there and there's so many to choose from, to do it. I would only go with ones that have many different testimonies with many different horses, where you can see the actual results from it. What do you have to lose? If you're looking at a supplement to help your horse and you're willing to do whatever it takes, and most of us are spending hundreds of dollars a month on our horses, especially ones that have issues, all you have to do is try this for 30 days.
Jessica Moore: You'll start to see the improvements in your horse. It may not be drastic. It may not be 100%. But you'll start to see the differences in it in just that first 30 days. You can buy a 15 day supply and then they offer the other 15 day at half price, so it makes it a little bit easier on your wallet while you try it. I was already spending thousands of dollars a month on Rooster and I didn't want him just to be a pasture puff that was going to be in pain. I was willing to try whatever, but I wanted to do my research and not just jump off and buy the first thing that I saw. And after doing the research, going to their Facebook, reading all their different testimonies, seeing all the different horses and the differences in them, I didn't have anything to lose with him. And by trying it, Rooster has made a drastic change and I'll keep him on it.
John Dowdy: Yeah. Now speaking of keeping him on it, tell us real quick what happened when you were getting close to the end of your 30 days and you had placed the order for the large tub, the $100 tub, which is 100 servings, but tell us what happened there as you started to run low. What was happening?
Jessica Moore: So when I placed my order and I started to run low, I didn't want Rooster to be without. I didn't want to take a step back. So I started rationing it and I was giving him like half scoops, just because I wanted him to have some of it in his system. Because from my research, your body doesn't store the amino acids, so each day, if you don't use it than it's eliminated out of the body. Our body doesn't actually store that. So he needs it every single day. And I did, I started giving him half. His sweat started coming back, his irritability started coming back.
Jessica Moore: And all I kept thinking was, if FedEx doesn't hurry up and bring me my next bottle, I'm about to run out and the horse is going to take steps backwards. Not necessarily with the the white line or the thrush, but just his attitude, the sweats from the stress or being in pain, or for whatever reason. And then as soon as my package arrived, was the day I had run out. And so I did his full scoop. I gave it to him and within a couple of days everything started to go back to the way that it was. The sweats went away, his demeanor calmed back down with it. So I have to order at least ahead of time so I don't run out again.
John Dowdy: Yeah. Well, and I'll touch upon that too because you explained that very well about the amino acids. Now again, the amino acids, they're in the Equinety because they're specifically formulated to stimulate the pituitary gland to release the hormones. Now, the hormones that are released have a 23.5 Hour life cycle, so when you give the Equinety product for the very first time, it actually starts working right away. Once it's absorbed, then it stimulates the pituitary to release the hormones. Now, those hormones have a 23.5 hour life cycle, so if you don't give the product the next day, then the hormone levels just go back to the way that they were before you started.
John Dowdy: So you were starting to see that. You were only giving a half a scoop so it wasn't stimulating at the full capacity. So if you're giving the product for three years and never miss a day and then you stop, the hormone levels go back to the way they were three years ago, or at that particular age. So that's why you were starting to see some regression with attitude, mood, because maybe some of the pain or chronic issues were starting to creep back in. And we hear this a lot, people sometimes they'll even do a little test, they'll keep their horse on for a while and they say, "Well, let me just stop giving this and see what happens." And they'll find that their horse will go back to the way that they were acting prior to. So just to a side note there. So for those listening in for the first time, that's kind of how the product works internally.
John Dowdy: Well, Jessica, once again, I really appreciate you taking the time. I know this is going to be a very, very helpful podcast for people out there, and those that are dealing with all these types of issues, again, with white line, thrush, collapsed heels, navicular, some arthritis, rescue horse. So I know it will be very encouraging, so thank you very much for sharing your story.
Jessica Moore: Oh, you're welcome. Absolutely.
John Dowdy: Yeah. Okay, thank you. Bye bye.
Jessica Moore: Thank you. Bye.