Equivont.com - Jessica DiCostanzo - Eventer - 3 Horses and amazing results

John Dowdy:

Hello and welcome to this week's Equinety podcast. We've got another great one. We're swinging out into the great state of California. We've got Jessica DiCostanzo on the call this week. Jessica, welcome to the Equinety podcast.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

Hey, John. Thanks so much for having me. I'm really excited to be here today.

John Dowdy:

Well, I really appreciate it. I know we've been chatting for... Well, going on about six weeks, I suppose. And you had originally reached out to me. You had come across the Equinety product, and then you enlightened me about your business model. You and your business partner, Jaclyn Dunt. And your company is called Equivont. And let's talk a little bit about that. How you've been around, what the business model is, and then we'll get into talking about what your experience has been using the Equinety product on three different horses of yours. So, first let's talk about Equivont. What is that and what do you do? How long you've been around, and how you and Jaclyn met.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

Yeah, thank you. Thanks again. So, Equivont, our goal is to make it easy for equestrian to find whatever it is they're looking for. So, this actually was started out of selfish need and a few years ago, back in 2018, Jacki and I partnered up to form Equivont because we noticed a very large gap in the industry. As professionals in marketing software and lifelong horse owners, I actually was in a position to move across the country and bring my horse with me. So, when I went to ask everyone in my network like, "Hey, what's the scoop in this area?" For the first time in my life, no one had any recommendation. So, I went online and I'm very experienced in doing research online, but unfortunately for the horse industry, all I found were these directories that looked like they were made when the internet came out.

John Dowdy:

Why update them? [inaudible 00:02:00].

Jessica DiCostanzo:

[inaudible 00:02:02], I'm sitting there scratching my head like, "Do I need to go knocking door to door with my horse in hand to make this happen?" I'm so confused. I was very frustrating and kind of mind-boggling for me because like most first girls, I spend more money on my horse than I do myself and I could find a dentist and a gym and a massage therapist. Do I have any of those things? No, but my horse should have.

John Dowdy:

Yeah, exactly.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

And so, Jacki and I were able to partner up and figure out a way to work with reputable service providers, people who make quality products as well as people who have quality horses for sale. So, it really is that one unified place online that you can find whatever you need for you or your horse.

John Dowdy:

That is pretty awesome. And how long have you been around? The business aspect.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

We are just approaching our three-year anniversary. So, 2018 is when we were founded.

John Dowdy:

Great. Now, do you cater to a certain discipline or is it just horses in general across all disciplines?

Jessica DiCostanzo:

Yeah. So, we're very focused on inventing hunter, jumper, and dressage riders for selfish reasons, to start, because we couldn't... So, in the areas that we know well, and I've heard many professionals in the industry as well as amateur riders recommending Equinety. So, I started researching it a bit more and then was connected to you and the rest has been history. And you've been generous enough to let us test out Equinety and I think it was funny because that first conversation that we had and you're telling me all the things that Equinety could do. And I was like, "This sounds too good to be true." And [inaudible 00:03:57]. I'm like, "It sounds like it fixes everything." And you're like, "Well, actually, it does. And let me tell you how." So, that was pretty funny.

John Dowdy:

No, that's great.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

[inaudible 00:04:11].

John Dowdy:

And we'll get more into the science aspect of it and why it works in so many ways, but I always laugh because people are looking for something to help their horse. And whether it's a high-end performance horse that really doesn't have any issues per se, but maybe they were looking for recovery or stamina, or just maybe even to look better, all the way to a horse that has mystery lameness things, or it's coming out of a surgery and needs quicker repair. So, all these things. And so, when people first learn about the Equinety Horse XL, most of the time their thoughts are, "Oh my gosh, this sounds really neat. This is exactly what I'm looking for." And then the more they keep reading or if you're talking to somebody like me, then you get to that point you're like, "Okay. I'm going to call BS on this one," or this sounds too good to be true. But the proof is always in the pudding too.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

Absolutely.

John Dowdy:

Now, before we get into the Equinety product, so what is the name of your website? So, we'll put this on our website as well.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

Oh, awesome. Yes. It's equivont.com. That's E-Q-U-I-V-O-N-T.com.

John Dowdy:

Okay. So E-Q-U-I-V, as in Victor, -O-N-T.com.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

Yes. You got it. So, "equi" for horse, "vont" for [inaudible 00:05:39], mash them together, and you got Equivont.

John Dowdy:

Aah. Very nice. Very nice. So, now you mentioned your background as being an inventor and Jaclyn is...

Jessica DiCostanzo:

A Jumper.

John Dowdy:

Jumper. Okay. So, we've got a couple of different things going on here. So, when we spoke it was around, I'd say middle of May, I think it was.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

[inaudible 00:06:03].

John Dowdy:

Yep. So, when you first started looking into the Equinety Horse XL product, what were your initial thoughts as far as... After you kind of went through, "Okay. Well, this..." Was it intriguing. I mean, I know you said that when you talked to me, it's like, "Okay. Well, this sounds too good to be true." But prior to that conversation, what were your thoughts when you were just looking at it?

Jessica DiCostanzo:

Yeah. I mean, I was looking at your website and the reviews and it was like, "Okay. It checks all of the boxes for..." I was like, "What other health issue is there that this doesn't cover?" I know. It went through my head. I was like, "If this works, this is the best thing that I could ever give my horse."

John Dowdy:

True.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

So, I was impressed right away, but then to your point and how I mentioned, I was a little bit skeptical like, "Okay, how does it do all of it?" Because that just seems too good to be true. And then you were able to inform me.

John Dowdy:

Sure. So, were there certain things that you were looking for in your three horses... Which we're going to be talking about. Was there anything in particular in those three that you were looking for?

Jessica DiCostanzo:

I think really it always comes down to health and physique for my horses. They have varying personalities as far as on the hot ends and on the colder side, [inaudible 00:07:21] side. So, making sure that I could maintain the appropriate energy level for that given horse, but also building more muscle and stamina without having the hotness come out was always a big thing for me.

John Dowdy:

Sure. Sure. So, I'll talk a little bit about the Equinety Horse XL, and then I want to get into the specifics of what you found just in the last 30 days to five to six weeks here since you've been using the product. To the Equinety Horse XL, it's 100% pure amino acids. There is no fillers, no sugars, no starches, and there's no loading dose. And a serving size is 5.2 grams, which is like a little teaspoon regardless of the size of the horse. The dosage has nothing to do with the size of the horse because what we're doing is we're targeting the pituitary gland, which is roughly the same size in horses. So, it's a very unique product in that it doesn't fit into a specific supplement category. In other words, it's not categorized as a hoof supplement or a recovery supplement or a joint supplement or muscle building supplement or shiny coat. What we're doing is we're allowing the body to release its own repairing hormones from the pituitary gland. And then the body is able to send its own hormones to its own problem areas.

                So, this is why it helps in so many ways. And another reason why I started this podcast a little over three years ago, because so many people were calling in or emailing and saying, "Hey, let me share with you what this product did for my horse." And more times than not, my jaw was on the table. And then one day it hit me I'm like, "It's a real shame that I'm the only one hearing this story outside of their circle." And so, I thought, "Well, I'll start this podcast." And then it'll be a great resource for people that are also having similar issues or know friends that are having issues or just looking for a better quality of life for their horse.

                And so, we are blessed beyond blessed because we had no idea the product was going to help the way that it has from the high-end performance horses to rescue horses. We've got breeding farms that are using it. It's safe to use in any situation, whether it be pregnant mares to foals, to yearlings and all the way through life into the performance horse world. It doesn't taste because it's 100% pure amino acids which is always great. So, we also have a second product, which I'll get into a little bit later, but before we go too much further in that, let's talk about your three different horses because they're three different ages. And so, wherever you would like to start sharing your experience just in the last four to six weeks.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

Sure. Yeah, I'd love to. So, we'll start with my first horse who I still have. He is now 29 years old. He was my FEI dressage horse, and I had retired him a while ago, but he is one of those horses who didn't really appreciate being retired. So, he went down to a much lighter workload involving trail rides and whatnot. And he actually, many years ago, probably 10 years ago, was diagnosed with Cushing's as well. So, we've gone through all of the fluctuations of his weight, where he would get fat just by looking at a piece of hay.

John Dowdy:

Right, yeah.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

Getting really, really skinny and bony. And I'm like, "Oh my gosh. He was like an Ethiopian horse. what's going on here?" he was super skinny and bony, and you could see all the ribs. So, being able to manage the hormones and how everything is working and his body has been huge for me. And he tells you right away if something's off. I mean, you can see it just physically with his appearance.

                So, I'd say in the past year, he was gaining a little bit of muscle, but the top line was not there and still really ribby. And his energy levels fluctuated every other day. He could be super hot or not even want to walk out of his stall. So, since starting on Equinety, I've noticed his top line is filled out. His ribs are covered now and his energy is consistent and he's excited to go out and work. And I don't really see the days where he's just like, "No, it's too much for me today." He also has had a long career in jumping before he was a dressage horse and has... I mean, he's 29. He has arthritis for anyone, for [inaudible 00:12:17] that age.

John Dowdy:

All right. Yeah.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

And I've just noticed his overall comfort levels, tying back to wanting to work, is very obvious concerning Equinety. So, that was a great... "Okay. Here's an old man who still wants to work." And I was able to notice probably the most significant difference with him because he can fluctuate so much. This kind of added that consistency in his life and his diet and his overall appearance.

John Dowdy:

Sure. How quickly did you begin noticing a change in him?

Jessica DiCostanzo:

I would say it was just a couple weeks, maybe two weeks, that I noticed a big difference in him.

John Dowdy:

Yeah. And I would say that's pretty common. One of the other great things with this product is because it's in the stage ready for absorption, the body doesn't have to break anything down, which means it absorbs really fast and I'm talking within hours.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

Yeah.

John Dowdy:

So, that means the products... It gives the body what it needs to release those hormones very quickly. And a lot of times what we found horses that have a lot of stress, anxiety are a bit spooky. We've heard of complete demeanor changes. And as little as two to three days for the recovery, the stamina, better focused, feeling better or more balanced and better under saddle within a couple of weeks. And then the 30 day mark, a lot of people are noticing softer, shinier coat, filling out. It could be in the hips or even in the top line.

                And then maybe the beginnings of even some thicker sole depth and a little bit better hoof growth, but that comes a little bit, maybe in the six week mark, but it's a product that works really, really fast. And it's one of the reasons why we recommend starting with this product initially, so you can see the results quickly and then you can add the secondary product at any time, but we always recommend just changing one thing at a time.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

Yeah.

John Dowdy:

Yeah. All right. That's pretty impressive, I would say. 29 years old and feeling great. All right. Who's the...

Jessica DiCostanzo:

That's why I'm like, he was pretty swelled [inaudible 00:14:28].

John Dowdy:

Yeah. So, okay. Tell us about the next one.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

Yes. So, then I have Coco who's my two star eventing competition horse. She's going to be 10, actually, next week. And she's kind of like a fine tuned machine at this point. We've been figuring out her diet and everything, but she runs very hot. So, she's always had a nice coat. She's always got good muscle. She kind of have to for that job.

John Dowdy:

Yeah, no doubt.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

So, there's no room for... So with her, I noticed because she is a chestnut marish and [inaudible 00:15:13] first. And so, managing her hormones is different than obviously the 29 year old gelding. So with her, she can come out like a bat out of hell at any day of the week and managing that and making sure she can do her job without coming completely unglued is really what I've noticed with her. That she's got cool, consistent energy. It's kind of taken the edge off of the chestnut mare.

John Dowdy:

Yes.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

So, I can come out.

John Dowdy:

So, the hot mare is not so hot, just more balanced now.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

Exactly. More focused, I think, is the best way of putting it and not... I mean, yeah. I can manage her emotions [inaudible 00:16:02].

John Dowdy:

Uh-huh (affirmative).

Jessica DiCostanzo:

So, I've noticed the biggest difference with her on the focus side of things. And then I have a young horse who was started late and basically had a U-shaped neck and a [teepee 00:16:20] , but-

John Dowdy:

Oh, wow.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

... when I got her, and all of her ribs were showing just because she started at seven. So she didn't really have to use her body in the way that she needed to. She was just a pasture ornament, basically. So, with her, I went through probably every waking supplement there was. She had no muscle definition. And luckily where these horses are, there's a lot of tills and whatnot. So, I wasn't too concerned about building the muscle, but with her, like I said, super bony, rear-end, really ribby, no endurance, zero top lines, [inaudible 00:16:58].

John Dowdy:

Right.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

And I tried all these weight-gaining things and muscle builders and nothing. I didn't really notice a difference with her. And with her because she was so underdeveloped, I wanted to make sure that she wasn't getting so sore and then getting cranky because of it. So, when I first started having [inaudible 00:17:19] one circle each direction and then since this has been a few months process.

                When I started her on the Equinety products, then all of a sudden I'm like, "Oh my gosh, you have a neck. Look at that. Oh my gosh. I can't see her hip bones anymore. This is incredible." And all the ribs went away and she's very happy to do her job. I mean, I haven't noticed any soreness. You put your leg on and she's ready to rock. There's no more of that kind of crapping out, for lack of a better word. She's got the endurance and stamina to keep going and her coat now is [inaudible 00:17:58] and beautiful.

John Dowdy:

Wow.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

It was interesting to see three very different use cases and the results that it brings in all three of those horses.

John Dowdy:

Yeah. I think one of the more interesting things and why I enjoy doing these podcasts as well, especially when we can talk about multiple horses in this case, we've got three different age brackets and although it targeted to each one's needs, there was also commonalities across the board, the softer shinier coat. I know you had dabbled on a couple of them. So, it's very interesting in that way. And I tell people all the time, "This is by no means a miracle supplement, but it can sure do some miraculous things." Even when it comes down to the hoof quality... If there's not a hoof to work with, you could have the best farrier on the planet, but if there's nothing to work with, what are you supposed to do?

                And so, one of the other great benefits with the product is it just helps the overall health of the hoof and the strength and the growth, and it gives the farrier more to work with. And in the examples that you're giving here, when we're talking performance horses, not that there was anything really wrong with them per se, but the one's 29, he's older, he's been through a lot and arthritis and now he's feeling good and running all over the place. And then your eventer, we'll say more balanced not as marish, which is obviously less dangerous. I would put out there.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

Absolutely. Absolutely.

John Dowdy:

So, everybody needs to stay safe out there, of course. And probably one of the best descriptions I hear most often is when people start using the product, it just helps balance the horse from the inside out.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

Oh, absolutely. I mean, to your point, the proof is in the pudding. You can see it just within a few days of using the product on your horses.

John Dowdy:

yeah. And some of the other great benefits too, it's perfectly safe to give with any medications. As a matter of fact, we recommend not changing a thing that you're doing as far as... If you're giving your horse any medications or supplements or other things and just add this one scoop right into their feed, and then this way, you know it's the only element you've changed. And then within a couple of days, a couple of weeks, and like I said before, the vast majority within 30 days, notice the changes and typically it's a lot of things that you were trying to find to begin with. And it's at that point where you as the horse owner, you know your horse better than anybody. You can then determine whether to reduce or stop using other things. So, that's kind of how we recommend the product in that aspect.

                Now, you had also mentioned your one horse with Cushing's. And so, we get a lot of questions, is this safe to use on Cushing's horses since we're targeting the pituitary gland? Yes, it is. We've been on the market seven years now. We've got tons and tons of testimonials and even [inaudible 00:21:04] quite a few podcasts with Cushing's horses and some of the other benefits by giving them the product is, again, helping to balance the hormone release and overall wellbeing of the horse, but a lot of times, it's helping them to shed out faster any of the crustiness that might be on the neck areas. A lot of times, that'll go away and they just ultimately become rounded from the inside out. The overall health and wellbeing of the horse.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

Absolutely.

John Dowdy:

Yeah. Is there any other things that you've noticed with these guys? I mean, that's quite a bit, I would say, in just four to six weeks.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

It's kind of interesting because when I was... So, my eventer, we do a lot of conditioning. We're jumping or doing a lot of heavy workloads to condition for her events. And so, some days when I go to get on her, she literally like [inaudible 00:22:06] that we have to walk up and stretches out her back legs and I'm like, "Oh, okay. Yesterday was gnarly." She tells me. She stretches herself when she comes out. And I can know... I'm noticing her doing that a fraction of the amount. And that actually, when you were talking about that just made me realize like, "Oh, she's actually recovering easier and not feeling quite so sore the next day," which is kind of a weird thing that a horse would do, but she tells me like it is.

John Dowdy:

Yeah.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

So, I think that her body just feels better and she's able to keep on conditioning the next day without feeling so sore.

John Dowdy:

And that's actually... We've received a lot of feedback, especially you get over into the Western world when they're pulling like maniacs all over the country, and doing all these weekend rodeos and things. And a lot of times where they might have to rest the horse, sometimes two, three days. Now, it's a one day rest. These horses are ready to go all the time. Obviously, you've got to be in tune with your horse and know how to read them things like you were just explaining, but at the end of the day, when you can help get your horse where you need them to be quicker and safely, then that's always a positive thing, for sure.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

Absolutely.

John Dowdy:

Yeah. So, the second product that we have is called the Equinety Ultimate OEC and Dr. Zach Bruggen of Arkansas, about two years ago, he had reached out to me and he absolutely loves the Equinety Horse XL, and he sells it to his clients off his truck and he calls me up and he says, "Hey, have you ever thought about coming out with another product?" And I said, "Well, not for the sake of coming out with one. You know what we have, the Equinety Horse XL works pretty darn good. And I really don't know what else we would even come out with. And unless it was something that worked in combination with the Equinety Horse XL. We'd have to complement it." And he says, "Okay. Yeah, that makes sense." He goes, "I'm a big fan of oils." I went, "Are you serious right now?" I said, "You obviously know how many oils are on the market."

                Yeah. And he says, "I know." He goes, "but there's nothing like what I have in mind." I said, "All right. What are you thinking?" He says, "Well, a lot of people that use the oils, which a lot of horses need, but when you look at the quality of the oil, it's really not the best thing for the horse. In other words, it really needs to be an omega-3 rich oil and a lot of oils that are out there, people use even vegetable oil or soy, corn. These are high in omega-6 which causes a lot of inflammation. So we're going to have our base as a flaxseed based omega-3 oil." I said, "Okay." "And the second ingredient is natural, cold press vitamin E. And a lot of people, they use vitamin E a lot. Often, it's synthetic." And he says, "You might as well just pour that on the ground because horse can't use that. So, we're going to have in one dose, it's 1,000 international units of natural, cold press vitamin E." I said, "Okay, that sounds good."

                "And then the third component is colloidal silver." And I said, "Ah, that's interesting." And not that there's anything unique with any three of these ingredients because there's not. And there's products on the market that have obviously one of them or two. To my knowledge at this time, they don't have all three, but some of the ones that are out there like the colloidal silver, and then it will be mixed with a not so great other ingredient.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

Right.

John Dowdy:

My point is not to put any other companies down or products or anything. I know what our products do and that's pretty much what I focus on, but our whole thing is about education. And if you're going to be using ingredients like these, let's use the best that you can possibly use. And we came out with this in March of last year and it has kind of taken on a life of its own as well. But the importance of how it works in combination with the amino acids is twofold.

                One, first and foremost, with the Equinety Horse XL, we want to give the body what it needs to help repair at the cellular level. And as those cells are repairing, when you pair it with the Ultimate OEC, it's giving those repaired cells some nutrition, which is vitally important. But secondly, the three main ingredients in the Ultimate OAC serve as a really powerful antioxidant, which helps reduce inflammation. So, we've had a lot of the feedback people that use Equinety Horse XL, it has completely changed their horses around, but maybe their horse is still tying up. Maybe it's got some ulcer issues. Maybe it has a cough. Maybe he doesn't want to drink when it's being hauled. And it seems like when they add the Ultimate OEC in combination with the Horse XL, more times than not, ends up being the missing puzzle piece.

                So, it's pretty interesting. But at the end of the day, we always recommend, hey, just start off with the Equinety Horse XL. It's one element. You can see the changes and then if you need the other stuff, you can always add that onto it, but there's been a lot of really great feedback and results. One with just the Equinety Horse XL, but then there's a whole slew of other folks saying, "Hey, the combination is just dynamic and awesome."

Jessica DiCostanzo:

That's great.

John Dowdy:

Yeah. Well, is there anything else that you'd like to touch on? Any possible questions that might be lingering out there? I know we've got a lot of these questions answered just going to other podcasts and things, but if there's anything on the forefront and if not, that's okay too.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

Yeah. I mean, what I was researching a bit more on your website too is just how it is... I mean, I think you've touched on this, but how it is able to help so many areas of the body like the actual science behind how Equinety Horse XL works.

John Dowdy:

So, again, going to the pituitary gland, which is a gland in the body that releases hormones. And the body does this anyways. And specifically what we're after is growth hormone, which is the master hormone. And that triggers another hormone out of the liver called IGF-1. And so, as a horse ages, just like in people and all mammals, those hormone levels are on the decline just as we age. And so, that's one element of it. And then you get into the performance horse world when you're really using that body. And there's a lot of, I don't know, inflammation, things going on, and wear and tear. And so, you're looking for the recovery aspect. And so, you're really pushing the body to the limits, but there's one product, Equinety Horse XL, we're giving the body what it needs to help release more of those hormones. And then the body can send those hormones, which are specific for repair.

                The other great thing about it is because we're allowing the body to release its own hormones, it's the body that regulates its own hormones. So, they can't get too much. Now another neat little thing is if you give a scoop in the morning, which is what a lot of people do in the morning feed, the hormones that are released have a 23 and a half hour life cycle. So, by the time you give a scoop the following morning, the hormone levels are back to where they would normally be for that age of a horse, which is perfectly fine. In most situations, people just give one scoop a day and they see the results and they love everything.

                Now, when it comes to a performance horse or working horse or an injured horse or one that's maybe coming out of a surgery, trying to get in the recovery aspect in that manner, we have a lot of people that give a scoop in the morning and a scoop in the evening, and it's not a loading dose, but what it's doing is you're stimulating the body to release those hormones twice a day. So, in essence, you're keeping the hormone levels elevated and that helps promote faster recovery.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

Oh, awesome.

John Dowdy:

Yeah. So, that's kind of the science behind that. And, of course, with all of that being said, of course we always highly advise consulting with your vet and your medical team and all this kind of stuff as well. But that's how the science works behind the amino acids. And even being on the market for seven years, one of the things that we just hear over and over... You get into the high-end performance barns and it actually doesn't even have to be a high-end performance barn. It could just be in a barn where they get the best feed and nutrition and care that that horse can possibly get. When they add a scoop of this Equinety Horse XL, they still see results because there's... The horses, in general, just aren't getting the right amount of amino acids. So, we hear that a lot.

                One of the other questions that we get, I think, that would be important to touch on is when some of these high-end feeds, they're loaded with amino acids and so, can a horse get too much or does the feed have enough of the amino acids in it? Those types of questions. So, the answer to that is if the feed is in a pelleted form... To make those pellets requires an extremely high heat, which the high heat breaks down the integrity of the amino acids. And so, that's why when you add a scoop of this, it works so well because, remember, we're targeting the pituitary gland. We're not giving a "hoof supplement" or joint supplement or [inaudible 00:32:01] supplement or calmer or focus or... It's not categorizing that. We're just giving the body what it needs to help release its own repairing hormones. And then the body decides because it knows best. That's why this product works a lot very well in the mystery lameness situations.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

Yeah. That makes perfect sense.

John Dowdy:

Yeah. Awesome. Well, if there's anybody tuning in that might still be on the fence. Maybe they're thinking, "Hey, this is too good to be true." Other than anything else that you said, what would you have to say to that person that might get them off the fence to give it a try?

Jessica DiCostanzo:

I mean, try it for two weeks and you'll see the difference. And I think... Especially you guys are very reasonably priced. I think it's certainly much less expensive than calling the vet out for any reason.

John Dowdy:

Hey. Sometimes you need a vet, but...

Jessica DiCostanzo:

We do. [inaudible 00:33:05], but for a low risk option, from everything that I've seen, it certainly can't hurt your horse.

John Dowdy:

No.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

Just testing it out, your horse will tell you within a very short period of time. So, I'd say it's the most cost effective way, for sure, to figure out what might be going wrong with your horse.

John Dowdy:

Yeah, absolutely. And we try to price this too, so it's affordable to everyone. It comes out to a dollar a day. The large container, which is 1.3 pounds. It's about half the size of a Folgers coffee can. So, there's 100 servings in there. It's 99.99. So, a dollar a day per horse, if you're giving one scoop a day. With all the benefits that you get, it's pretty awesome, I would say.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

Absolutely.

John Dowdy:

Yeah. Well, I tell you what, it's been a pleasure having you on, Jessica DiCostanzo. Do you like how I put that little DiCostanzo? All right. With equivont.com out of California, Jessica, thank you so much for taking the time to share your experience and your business and all the things here on the team at Equinety podcast.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

Oh, John. I so appreciate you inviting me be your guest. You guys have been so awesome. [inaudible 00:34:21]. You [inaudible 00:34:24] to share this amazing product on Equivont.

John Dowdy:

Awesome. Well, thank you so much. Have a good one.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

Thanks. You too.

John Dowdy:

All right. Bye-bye.

Jessica DiCostanzo:

Bye.

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